12-03-2017 06:18 AM
SanDisk Clip Sport just purchased! Very cool, very light, great sound!
Figured out so far:
1. DONE - Enabling Audible Books on my player - Audible Manager not Download Manager best described procedure here:
http://audible.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4723 finally all my Audible can be played on my Clip Sport!
2. NEED HELP - All my currently library of Audiobooks has been converted to 32kbps/32kHz/Mono AAC for my iPod Classic 160gb, and has sufficient quality and the smallest file space (used to be Audible's format of choice, so I started using it years ago). Hopefully it's easily fixable without converting my entire library to Stereo output, but with all my Mono files, the Clip Sport only outputs to my left earbud! I have tried 3 or 4 of my other pairs of earbuds of differing mfg, but still only outputs in left ear, and the buds are pushed in very snugly. I can't imaging that there is a problem with my new Clip Sport, since all the audiobooks with stereo work fine in both ears, just files coded with mono.
Any help would be appreciated. I can't seem to find an answer on this forum, but please point me to it if you have solved this issue already.
12-04-2017 08:04 AM
Here is one really simple minded idea to try:
Buy an audio "Y" adaptor connector (aka headphone splitter cable).
Then use two pairs of earbuds. Listen to one working bud from each pair.
It would be helpful for an audio expert to explain here how this problem was created and how to avoid.
12-05-2017 12:32 PM
I appreciate the suggestion... Seems a little impractical with the extra earbuds hanging loose on each ear... I'm wondering if anyone else has had this problem with MONO books... Audible ".AA" format uses MONO encoding currently, and like I mentioned all the audiobooks that I have converted myself has been encoded with MONO so that the file size is sufficiently small. I've just always used an iPod, and this is my first experience with another player. Surely the wonderful Clip Sport doesn't play MONO in only one ear! Stereo works fine for songs and Audible enhanced ".AAX" which is encoded with Stereo. If I convert one of my books to Stereo at 32kbps/22.050kHz/Stereo the file size is actually a little smaller than 32kbps/32kHz/Mono - but that's a big job in iTunes converting everything over to that format. But it works!
Please somone tell me that there is a fix, or something in setup that I have missed, that will play mono through both ears, even if not stereo!
01-09-2018 06:19 PM
I believe I have found a solution to the problem of Mono AAC (M4A) files playing in only one ear on the Clip Sport!
The problem is that AAC encoding with 32kbps/32kHz/Mono is the problem - it only plays on the left ear. If I use MP3 encoding at 32kbps/32kHz/Mono it plays a single channel in both ears as it should! I believe that the issue is with the Clip Sport playing AAC mono.
Now I have a whole library of audiobooks encoded with AAC (M4A extensions) in Mono, that will only play in one ear. I could convert my entire library of audiobooks to MP3 mono as stated above, and it plays in both ears just fine! Problem is, it will take forever to do this.
Is there any hope that I could work with SanDisk to determine if we can take the same audiobook in AAC mono and make it play the same as the MP3 version? Then maybe with an upgrade to the software, I may not have to recode my entire library!!!
Help and suggestions.
One additional question, is that I have embedded artwork in all my audiobooks (Librivox) usually taking 200x200x90 pixels and these embedded artworks do not appear on the Clip Sport. But when I take that same image and resize it with Paint.Net to 150x150x100 this shows the artwork just fine. But, I would have to fix my entire library. It seems that I'm within the parameters of artwork in the Clip Sport manual, so why does this not work?
Sorry for adding on questions of different natures, but I LOVE THIS CLIP SPORT! I've got an iPod Classic 160gb and getting tired of it dying once in a while and having to reload it. Plus, I have to do this with iTunes. With the beautiful Clip Sport, I can do this with my files on an external drive, and withing Windows or drag-and-drop from iTunes. Like MusicBee for this also.
Please assist if others have comments.
01-10-2018 07:08 AM - edited 01-10-2018 07:33 AM
I am pleased to read that you have not given up on your Clip Sport. I enjoy using my various Clip Sports since buying my first over 2 years ago. I have experienced a variety of problems using m4a files. I usually make the extra effort to convert my purchased m4a files to mp3 format and I like to use ID3 tag format v2.3 ISO-8859-1.
I really doubt there are programmers / engineers affiliated with SanDisk who will be working on Firmware updates for the Clip Sport.
Here is one suggestion for you to consider: Try out a few software programs that can automatically convert a batch of m4a files to mp3 files with your desired encoding specs. Maybe you will get lucky and the embedded artwork will be properly displayed in the converted files? You could test-drive a few batches of audiobooks that you want to play now, Then once you have a satisfactory process you can let your computer work unattended for 1-2 hours a day as needed?
My current favorite batch audio file converter software is "Switch Audio File Converter" by NCH Software.
This software has a wide variety of settings including an option to save the converted files into the original source folder(s).
01-11-2018 04:52 PM
Thank you! I was nearing that conclusion myself, and nice to know that you do that same thing. Converting to Mono MP3 is perfect for audiobooks, with the least amount of space used, with acceptible sound. I'll give that software program a try.. batch mode into the same directory will work very well, since I have everything in subdirectories by Author name.
So far, I'm still having trouble with the embedded artwork, though. I'll experiment a bit, though even my original 200x200x96 pixels embedded cover art still isn't showing. I thought maybe that the MP3 format would allow some software routine on the Clip Sport to render the existing converted artwork. I can only get this to work if I copy the existing artwork into something like Paint.net and then resize to 150x150x100. So close to my original standard, but somehow doesn't show. I'm pretty sure that no batch mode will auto-resize embedded art, so I will have to do one at a time before converting to MP3.
Thanks for sticking with me!
01-11-2018 06:13 PM
I think the Clip Sport has some confusing requirements for the pixel size and density for artwork embedded in m4a files.
Here is a link to a recent message stream on this Forum.
Here is a trick you may not know for the Clip Sport.
1. Save your desired album art file as "folder.jpg" in the subfolder with your desired podcast mp3 files. Try using a square shaped image in the range of 200-300 pixels at density between 72 and 100. (these are my personal prefs)
2. Then make sure all the mp3 files in this subfolder do not have embedded clip art. (Very likely result from batch conversion.)
3. The Clip Sport will display the non-embedded "folder.jpg" file while playing any "naked" mp3 files in this subfolder.
4. You can play around with pixel dimensions and density for best results. Maybe share your results here ??
I like to use the software "IrfanView" for curating my folder.jpg and embedded jpg files.
01-16-2018 03:52 PM
Thank you once again! I have now tried the "folder.jpg" method for a series of files / tracks that make up an album. That works great - no art in the file, but one "folder.jpg" in that folder works well.
One interesting thing that is unusual/interesting when embedding cover art in M4A or MP3 files that I have tried... I have most of my artwork at 200x200x100, and have tried 150x150x100 and even 125x125x72. Of course, I have been using iTunes (latest version) to change the artwork, then drag and drop files from Windows 10 to a folder on my Clip Sport. Sometimes, it seems more lately for some reason, that the cover art still does not show up on the Clip Sport. Since that seemed odd to me, I tried Music Bee (which I have been trying out since I bought the Clip Sport) and just opened up each audiobook in edit mode, copied and immediately pasted back the artwork over itself, then it wrote it back to the folder on my hard disk. If I used Music Bee when done to drag and drop from Music Bee to my Clip Sport, then the artwork appeared properly on the Clip Sport! I'm beginning to think that iTunes is not following some sort of MP3 (or even M4A) rules when embedding artwork into files. Or at least the Clip Sport is recognizing a different method possibly?
What I'd like to know, is there a batch mode or in Music Bee, a way to select a bunch of files (audibooks) and "reorganize" the MP3 (or M4A) attributes to a "standard" way that the Clip Sport will recignize without having to copy/paste the artwork in edit mode one at a time for each of a small batch of audiobook files? I'm not sure what "tagging" means, but is that a way to correct files pertaining to artwork and/or other fields?
Again, I really appreciate your help!
01-16-2018 08:09 PM - edited 01-16-2018 08:11 PM
Maybe it is time to start a new message topic for problems displaying Album Art with the Clip Sport ???
For now, let me say that nearly all of my Clip Sport album art display problems were due to my slavishly using iTunes for > 10 years. It works great for IOS devices. Not so much for all other players.
I think you are smart to try alternate music manager software programs. I personally have been using "mp3tag" software to prepare my mp3 files for best tagging & display on my Clip Sport. This software has amazing features for curating ID3 tags, cleaning up album art problems and has a wide variety of macro commands. The software also has a "m3u" playlist creator using multiple subdirectories. SanDisk would be smart to put a link to this software in all their user manuals.