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SanDisk User
Posts: 24
Registered: ‎11-28-2007

Audiobooks on JAM

Hey gang.  I was checking the boards and it has been a while since someone asked and audiobook question on the Jam board.  I am currently babying an aging Clip Zip which I love, but my primary usage is Audiobooks.  When the sport and Jam came out I checked the boards and it looked like many were dissappointed with the quality of Audiobook playback on the new models so I got a spare Zip.  Well, I fear for the life expectancy of my current Zip and they are getting very hard to find so I thought I would ask, have the troubles with audiobooks on the newer models been worked out?  I mostly transfer MP3 audiobooks to my Audiobook folder and have no issues with my Zip.  I don't use audible.  Any word out there about the current firmware etc?  Thanks Much

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Posts: 1
Registered: ‎09-07-2017

Re: Audiobooks on JAM

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I also need player to listening MP3 audiobooks. Which one I should choose? Clip Jam, Clip Sport or maybe old Sansa Clip Plus. Need it while jogging.

SanDisk Senior User
Posts: 190
Registered: ‎02-27-2009

Re: Audiobooks on JAM

Same question, my Zip has died. My sons have taken over my old Clip+s, and my Clip originals don't have the storage space I'd like. I'd appreciate any recommendations on Jam vs Sport for MP3 audiobooks. I don't use audible or DRM audiobooks.

 

Anything new or different that should be noted? I've heard the Jam no longer has a dedicated power button - does 'press & hold' still do a hard reset?

 

Thanks.


z-paul wrote:

I also need player to listening MP3 audiobooks. Which one I should choose? Clip Jam, Clip Sport or maybe old Sansa Clip Plus. Need it while jogging.


 

SanDisk User
Posts: 24
Registered: ‎11-28-2007

Re: Audiobooks on JAM

I am glad I am not the only one out here still using MP3 audiobooks and not just streaming from a phone.  That said I am really surprised we haven't heard more from the regulars.  I know the forums have been really helpful to me in the past.

 

If you love your zip and are willing to fork out the money, you can still find new in box and refurbished on e-bay and around the web.  My last one was refurbished and has given me no trouble but the one before that was new in the box and lasted 3 months, I got sansa to waranty that one but a few month later I forgot it was in my pocket and washed it...oh well.  THe thing is, the price point is way off the chart to what you pay for a jam or sport or even a zip if you bought it while it was still being manufactured.

 

I am seriously considering purchasing a JAM and testing it.  Worst case senario the kids have a new toy.  If I do that I will post about my results here for any who are interested.

 

That said, HEY GUYS, anybody out there that can give me a review?  Anybody have positive feedback on the JAM or the SPORT with audiobooks?  Or for that matter, negative feedback so I know to look elsewhere.  THANKS MUCH!

SanDisk Fanatic
Posts: 385
Registered: ‎09-12-2015

Re: Audiobooks on JAM and Sport

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I have successfully used my Clip Sport to organize and play audiobooks copied from CD's (public library) and from Overdrive service (also public library).  Maybe take a look at this long discussion in the SanDisk Forum.

      http://forums.sandisk.com/t5/SanDisk-Clip-Sport/Audiobooks-do-not-show-up-properly/m-p/355309#M3090

 

Also, there are a few common complaints by new Sport and Jam owners when attepting to use these players for their audiobooks.

   1. Slow fast-forwarding speed to advance to a distant playback point in a long file.

   2. Only one "resume" point saved per audio file (Books mode).

   3. Books mode does not accept playlists.

SanDisk User
Posts: 24
Registered: ‎11-28-2007

Re: Audiobooks on JAM and Sport

Thank you for the input.  I had read several of the older discussions and was hoping someone had found a fix.   I love my ZIP and have tried other players and found them lacking.  The ability to pick up where you left off on an audiobook is invaluable.  I have found players that use bookmarks but don't simply resume in the last place you were so it gets problematic for those of us spoiled by the simplicity of the older model.  I will check out the link you noted.

 

thanks again

SanDisk Senior User
Posts: 190
Registered: ‎02-27-2009

Re: Audiobooks on JAM and Sport

I went out & did it. It appeared to already be on the most recent firmware so I didn't update it manually.

Here's my long-winded review of the Jam with audiobooks:


The good:
It's adequate for audiobooks *if* you
   1) load all your books into internal memory, or load them all on your uSD card (don't put books in both places)
   2) ONLY use it for audiobooks.
If you do both of these, the only oddness you may run into is that when you finish an audiobook, it auto-starts track one again. No biggie.


The Battery life is much better than the Zip - I've read two 7 track MP3 books and it's still at 40% battery (16 hours+ maybe?).

 

The bad:
1) No integrated databases (internal memory + external uSD card are not combined) -
     a) In order to use the "Books" menu item, all your books must be loaded on internal memory.

     b) Any books loaded on the uSD card will only be accessible via the "Card" menu item.
     c) Same thing for the "Music" menu item, music on the card will only be available via the "Card" menu item.
     d) The "Folders" menu item is unsorted and not good for audiobooks (no attempt at bookmarking). Not recommended.

 

2) Limited bookmarking capability if you use anything other than audiobooks. When you switch to any other menu item (Music, Card, Settings, etc), it forgets your last book and track. Hints:
     a) Keep the book playing if you need to go into Settings so it doesn't lose your spot.
     b) if you need to play something else (music, radio), make a mental note, or write down, the book's track.
     c) When it loses your bookmark, it does remember your place within the last track; as long as you can navigate back to the correct book and track, it's capable of asking "Resume?" (In the few days since I got this Jam, I've already *several times* had to search track by track for the one which offered "Resume?" It can be done, but it's annoying.)

 

There's one *minor* improvement in the Jam over the Zip, the Jam's audiobook display does show which track number you're on. The Plus and earlier models also displayed the book's track number, but the Zip didn't.

 

3) uSD card issue:
     This could just be me, but I'd recommend backing up your uSD card before putting it in the Jam (if there's anything on it you value). The first thing I did was pull my audiobooks uSD card out of my Plus and stick it in the Jam. The Jam was not able to read the uSD card; in addition, the card got corrupted by the Jam, so that when I put the card back in my Plus, it could no longer read my books. I had to reformat the card and load it back up again. It's fine now, but this situation could have been a real bummer if I didn't have backup.

 

My setup:
I put all my audiobooks on internal memory in order to use my Jam's "Books" menu item, and all my music on the uSD card. 
I customized the display to show only the options I use: I turned on Books and Card, and turned off the rest including Music, Radio, Folders, and Sport. Since I have all my music on the card, the "Music" menu item is empty anyway, so I have to access my music via the "Card" option. In this way, I avoid tabbing through a lot of unused menu options.

 

Notes:

I only use MP3 books (and pretty much exclusively from my library's Overdrive collection now, no Audible).
I also audit the MP3 tags out of habit (mp3tag utility).

 

I'm not happy with how much the Jam has regressed from the functionality of the Zip, but it will work, and the battery is much better. For me, I don't think my phone will ever replace a player such as this for the following reasons:

     1) my phone's battery

     2) size factor

     3) built-in clip

If there's a firmware update to combine the internal/external databases or expand bookmarking capability, I'd be thrilled to update my review! Let me know if anyone finds work-arounds and I'll update it!

LCG
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Posts: 1
Registered: ‎10-17-2017

Re: Audiobooks on JAM and Sport

I've had a Clip Jam for maybe two years.  (I had three or four different Sansa players before it, and they died an honorable death after many, many hours of loyal audiobook service.)  At first, there were occasions when the Clip Jam would not play audiobook tracks in order, but, oddly, I could solve that problem by moving them from "Audiobooks" to "Music."  I lost bookmarking, but I don't use bookmarking all that much, so it seemed like a reasonable trade-off.  Over time, however, the Clip Jam lost the ability to play audiobook tracks in order no matter where I put them.  And instead of being an occasional problem, it is now an every day all the time problem.

 

This is not a firmware problem.  I have the latest firmware, which I reinstalled per Customer Service directions to make sure it was not just a problem of firmware having become corrupted.

 

Sandisk's Customer Service says that the player and firmware are functioning properly and suggests that I should solve this problem by changing the ID3 tag on each and every track of each disk of each audiobook.  Myself, I read some long books.  Changing the ID3 tags on 168 tracks before I can even begin to read a book is a nonstarter.

 

After a lengthy email discussion with Customer Service, they suggested that I buy a Clip or a ClipZip.  But of course most of you are on this page because you can no longer buy the Clip or ClipZip.

 

Does anyone have any experience with the Sandisk Flash?  Does it work better for audiobooks?

SanDisk Fanatic
Posts: 385
Registered: ‎09-12-2015

Re: Audiobooks on JAM and Sport

Here are a few quick suggestions to get you started.  Maybe other Jam users will provide more detailed suggestions.

 

1. Try using mp3tag software (shareware) to edit the Filenames and ID3 tags in your audiobook files. 

2. Try using Album names (book titles) and FIlenames (chapter titles) that have unique sorting information within the first 12-16 characters.

3. Try using track numbers from 01-99. Three digit track numbers will not sort correctly.

4. For tracks above 99, you can try creating a "Part B" of a Book and re-start the track counting from 01.

 

Here is a link to the home page for mp3tag.

   https://www.mp3tag.de/en/

 

 

 

 

SanDisk Senior User
Posts: 190
Registered: ‎02-27-2009

Re: Audiobooks on JAM and Sport

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I also highly recommend learning how to use the mp3tag utility. It's one of the mandatory steps I follow when copying a new book to my player and it adds maybe 15 seconds to the process, running auto-number and setting Album name/book title on all the tracks. (1. select all tracks, 2. hit "auto-number" button, 3. add an Album title, 4. hit save & you're done.)

 

Sometimes those fields are already good and I've wasted a few seconds, but more often the books I get from the library are missing those fields (it used to be 1 out of 5 books I'd check out were missing the tags, now I swear it's more like 4 out of 5 - are you getting your books from Overdrive?). 

With setting those 2 fields: Album name & tracks, in mp3tag, I haven't had any problems with track sorting on the Jam.

 

I haven't run into too many books over 100 tracks, but