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Posts: 1
Registered: ‎10-05-2015

Audiobook File Order

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How exactly does the Jam order files in the Book folder?

 

I have my audiobook files in separate "disc" files, each is the length of a full cd and there are as many cds as the book is long.

 

The file names are "Disc 01 - Whatever Book", the track title is also "Disc 01 - Whatever Book" and the track numbers are filled in.

 

The Jam order them in something seemingly random, for example one book came out as: 06, 01, 07, 02, 08, 10, 04, 11, 05, 03, 09. 

 

This kind of makes the use of audiobooks difficult...

 

On a side note the track skip button still works in the audiobook folder (it didn't on the Clip +, it just fast forwarded if you held it). Why the hell would I want to skip to the next file in an audiobook?

 

So is this thing pointless for audiobooks?

 

These files are all 64kbps mp3, by the way.

jka
Newbie
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎10-07-2015

Re: Audiobook File Order

I have tried everything: renaming files and titles in order of use, making m3u file lists etc., but nothing works. It all ends up with files in seemingly random order. Sometimes only after I have added some more files to the mp3 player. Did they test it before putting it on the market? See:

http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/14337/kw/audiobook%20jam%20clip/session/L3RpbWUvMTQ0ND...

http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/8369/kw/audiobook/session/L3RpbWUvMTQ0NDIxOTUwNi9zaWQv...

The only way is not to play the books from “Books”, but to go to “Folder” and walk through the directory tree until you find the files you want to play.

A disadvantage is that you cannot change play speed and the file position is lost after you plug the mp3 player into the computer.

Newbie
Posts: 3
Registered: ‎02-21-2016

Re: Audiobook File Order

I am having the same problem. I am on firmware v 1.03 and no matter what I do the audiobooks are out of order. I have the correct track #, the titles are all in order, and the filenames are good.

 

Here is what it looks like in folder viewIMG_20160221_173256.jpg

 

Here is what is looks like in the audio book menu

IMG_20160221_173323.jpg

 

Here is how my files are tagged

mp3.jpg

SanDisk Fanatic
Posts: 298
Registered: ‎09-12-2015

Re: Audiobook File Order

Looks like your 3 images were deleted by the SanDisk forum software.

Do you want to try showing us text versions of your audiobook filenames and ID3 tag information?

Newbie
Posts: 3
Registered: ‎02-21-2016

Re: Audiobook File Order

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SanDisk Fanatic
Posts: 298
Registered: ‎09-12-2015

Re: Audiobook File Order

Hello ryanmc,

Your image "mp3.jpg" reveals a useful amount of information for some SanDisk Forum members to try and provide assistance.

 

 

I think you need to focus on providing specific information within the first 12 characters in the "Titles" tag field.

     For example:  Chapt 01-T01     Chapt 01-T02     Chapt 01-T03

     For your track # tag field, use 2-digit numbers (not 001, etc)

Your image does not reveal information in your "Album" field. Seems like you could use this field to help order your listening sequence if you will have many Harry Potter audio books on your player at the same time

     For example:  04 Goblet of Fire for all the audio files in the image you shared here.

 

Hopefully these fussy details are not too cumbersome for you. Once you arrive at a personalized solution, you will enjoy using the many convenient features of the Clip Jam.

[The Clip Sport functions in a similar manner to  the Clip Jam]

Newbie
Posts: 3
Registered: ‎02-21-2016

Re: Audiobook File Order

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  1. Does the clip jam not support 100+ files in a directory. is that why you recommend only 2 digits? I use 3 digits 001, 002, etc because there are over 100 tracks and 2 digits would not work.
  2. I have long titles, because on all my other devices it shows the title while playing, and I like seeing the full title, also I upload these to google music to play on my computer and phone, so I don't want to change the title. Even with 'Chatper 01' that is 10 characters and if the clip jam was using title for sorting, then Chapter 01 should show up before Chapter 22, or Chapter 31, but as you can see from the first image that is not happening.
  3. Can you tell me what tag the clip jam uses to sort the tracks? Then, rather than messing up all my tags, I can just focus on one.

 

Also if you have a list of file limits, or directory limits that would be useful to have as well, rather than always guessing. This is 2016, your software should be able to handle large names and large numbers of files.

SanDisk Guru
Posts: 15,984
Registered: ‎04-17-2008

Re: Audiobook File Order

Try eliminating the word "Chapter" and just use the numbers (01, 01, etc.) Also your MP3Tag screen shot does not show what the format of the tags are. They should be ID3v2.3 ISO 8859-1.

Newbie
Posts: 13
Registered: ‎06-26-2010

Re: Audiobook File Order

I have the same problem.

 

I formatted my clip jam using the clip jam options/settings menu.

I am using IDv3.2 tags.

I entered single-digit track numbers for all tracks.

My track titles start with numbers, and are numbered in the order I want to play them. (This is redundant with track number, but I'll do anything to get my audiobooks to play in order.)

I individually copy each audiobook to the clip jam, one at a time, in the order I want them played.

 

None of this helps. The Clip Jam stubbornly refuses to play my audiobooks in proper order. They're always shuffled.

 

What happened over at SanDisk? My Clip+ always played my audiobooks in the proper order. Why is the Clip Jam such a huge step backward in functionality?

SanDisk Guru
Posts: 15,984
Registered: ‎04-17-2008

Re: Audiobook File Order

1. You should use leading zeros (01, 02, 03 or 001, 002, 003, etc.) & not single digit numbers.

 

2. The Jam & Sport models use a different (and less powerful) processor than previous players as it is not made by SanDisk and was discontinued by the manufacturer. They got the only one that was feasibly (& economically) possible. Hence these models work differently and some features are no longer available.