Sansa Fuze+

@marvin_martian wrote:

 

I have only seen a handful of people who’ve shown any interest in SlotRadio/Music in the many forums, since it was introduced. Are they actually selling many of them? I would have considered a SlotMusic album if they were in FLAC, since they are not, I have no interest. I’ll either buy a CD so that I can get FLAC source files for my computer, or just buy an MP3 download from Amazon to put on the cards I already have.

 

I don’t know the sales numbers either. I haven’t bought any myself. But for whatever reason, SanDisk continues to bank on slotRadio/Music.

@jk98 wrote:

 

It is easy enough to put a Slotradio or Slotmusic card in an adapter to make it full sized. Another idea would be to have a player that has both a micro sized and a full sized card slot.

 

 

They could do that. I firmly believe they won’t, though.

There are a few problems with Slotradio. First of all, imo the price point is too high. Consumers typically only buy impulse items if they are priced under $20. Having 500 song cards at under $20 rather than 1,000 song cards at under $40 would imo have been much more popular.

The next issue is that people want to have their own music as well on a card in the player. Slotradio+ cards seem to address this, but adds to the cost of the cards. Having a second card slot on players would be another way to address this.

Imo if there would be a way to mark disliked songs on the cards so they won’t play, the Slotradio cards would be much more popular. It is so annoying to have to manually skip to the next song every time a disliked song starts playing. If someone only likes around 30% of the songs, the cards would still be worthwhile if the disliked 70% could be programmed to be skipped.

@jk98 wrote:

There are a few problems with Slotradio. First of all, imo the price point is too high. Consumers typically only buy impulse items if they are priced under $20. Having 500 song cards at under $20 rather than 1,000 song cards at under $40 would imo have been much more popular.

 

The next issue is that people want to have their own music as well on a card in the player. Slotradio+ cards seem to address this, but adds to the cost of the cards. Having a second card slot on players would be another way to address this.

 

Imo if there would be a way to mark disliked songs on the cards so they won’t play, the Slotradio cards would be much more popular. It is so annoying to have to manually skip to the next song every time a disliked song starts playing. If someone only likes around 30% of the songs, the cards would still be worthwhile if the disliked 70% could be programmed to be skipped.

 

 

 

I also thought it would be nice to have a player with two slots.  And not just for a slotradio card.  It could hold two 16gb cards for those with a large music library.  That’ll be 48gb of storage with a 16gb player.   And how much larger would the player have to be?   Maybe another half to three-quarters of an inch long?

The slotradio cards seem to sell well enough for Sandisk to keep producing newer cards.  There’s already quite a long list of them.  It’s good for those that don’t want to rip CDs or have to download their music.

The slotradio+ cards don’t seem to be selling as well, I’m guessing.  The higher price is a deterrent imo, and it only has 4gb of user storage.  It should be at least 8gb.  But would I pay $55 to $60 for that?  No.

The Slotradio+ cards are new. I was thinking that Slotradio+ cards might replace Slotradio cards. I am thinking that if Slotradio+ cards with 300 songs and over 6 GB of free space are priced at $20 they would probably sell well. Or else have 500 song Slotradio cards priced at $20.

I like the idea of having 2 card slots on a player, even if that means having  no built in memory.

I look surprisingly dashing in red and gold, don’t I? :slight_smile:

Hi,

Any chance someone could answer this for me??

THANKS!

@jay575 wrote:

One feature I’m curious about…

 

While the Fuze+ is playing music can I add an album (or song) to the playing queue, so that new album being added will play after the last item in the queue?

 

BTW, I haven’t used a Sandisk player before.

 

Thanks,

 

Jay

no, the fuze+ currently does not have a now playing queue. there is a “go list” which you can add songs to but you ahve to add them one at a time and it does not update while the list is playing.

in short No. in long, Yes it will work just not by it self. The Fuze (or as we will call it the "original fuze) has a large ipodish usb port build in. the Fuze+ has a microUSB port on it. The simple answer is go to amazon and you have one of two choices. for 8-9 dollars you can get a male to female usb converter (or female to male i can’t remember) and plug the converter into your altec lansing docking station. then plug the fuze + into that. or for $2 you can get (originally for the ipod) a plastic piece that makes it so you only plug in the fuze to the correct holes in the AL dock station.

Hope this help both items you can find at amazon.com

DemoBetaTester

" I also thought it would be nice to have a player with two slots.  And not just for a slotradio card.  It could hold two 16gb cards for those with a large music library.  That’ll be 48gb of storage with a 16gb player.   And how much larger would the player have to be?   Maybe another half to three-quarters of an inch long? "

First let me make it clear i am not criticizing the idea just the way you wanted to do it. IF i were Sandisk and i see that the people who buy my Fuze and Fuze + wanted the next generation (will call it Fuze N) to have two slots then i would make it WIDER not longer. heres why. I (being sandisk) would have to buy more of the casing material if i where making it longer then wider (ie length instead of thickness) the micro SD cards are what an 1/8th of an inch in thickness where as the width (length) is half an inch. (there abouts) cheaper to stack the slots one atop the other. That would be how they would do it. Mainly because they want to save money and sandisk (unlike apple) want us to keep as much money as possible (if only so that we spend more of it at there store) and get as great a product as possible.

DemoBetaTester 

Just wondering (only can be answered if you have received your Fuze + yet) how long does the initial charge take.? and how long (on a completely dead battery) does each regular charge take?  


Thanks

DemoBetaTester

Really wish they offered the white version in a 16GB capacity. 

Just bought an 8GB Fuze+ last night, and I have to say I’m REALLY disappointed in it. I’ll refrain from using the profanity I feel it deserves and explain as calmly as possible.

  • First, it just feels cheap - the previous Fuze’s felt much more solid and “denser”.  It also showed every figerprint and quickly became smuged just from normal handling.  I liked the V1 and V2’s “felt bag” because it protected the screen from scratches and kept the unit clean.

  • The power button on top, the volume buttons on the side are slow to respond. Although the placement of the earphone jack at the center on the bottom is nice for cheap docking stations, it uses a smaller USB type plug on the side which was a pain to connect, I felt like it was a matter of time before I bent it trying to plug it in.  When it was unplugged it felt like it took twice as long for it to finishing with the new “loading…” transitional screen.

  • The “swipe” navigation is just plain awful - once you reach the end (far right), there’s no option to “wrap around” like the spinning wheel does on the Fuze V1 and V2.  I felt the GUI was a step backwards.  No clear “home” button made it difficult to go from playing music, to the settings menu and change time, date, or other options.

  • I was unable to delete a folder I’d just created via Windows explorer…I was told the device was no longer responding or connected, and got that awful piano “thud” sound from Windows.  I tried copying two folders, with content, to the Fuze+ - and somehow the content got swapped!?  So I tried deleting each folder to re-create the folders on the device and it wouldn’t release one of the folders (and it wasn’t playing that content).

Bottom line - try before you buy.  I’m returning mine today, and going with the Fuze V2 instead.

Big Question for you CoindoorDave. If you bought it last night then how do you already have it. Even if you got the 2day shipping it wouldn’t be there till tomorrow. I think you decided to get on here an give the Fuze+ a bad name by giving a false review. NO WAY COULD YOU HAVE GOTTEN IT IF YOU ORDERED IT LAST NIGHT!!! NO :robotmad: WAY   

Note!  This is a family forum.  Please refrain from thinly veiled @$#%!! words, as most folks can easily figure it out.  Let’s keep the forums “friendly”. 

Thank you** ,**

µsansa

@demobetatester wrote:

Big Question for you CoindoorDave. If you bought it last night then how do you already have it. Even if you got the 2day shipping it wouldn’t be there till tomorrow. I think you decided to get on here an give the Fuze+ a bad name by giving a false review. NO WAY COULD YOU HAVE GOTTEN IT IF YOU ORDERED IT LAST NIGHT!!! NO :robotsurprised: WAY   

Easy, killer…maybe he is near a store that has one in stock.

I live a couple miles from the Best Buy in Davenport, Iowa.  They had have several in stock (black & white for sure, maybe red and blue…dunno, but there were only 3 V2 Fuze’s on the pegboard still). 

FWIW: The receipt sez:

1116326 SDMX20R-008

  SANSA FUZE+ 8GB  BLACK    89.99

Date/Time stamp: 09/11/10   18:41

Give 'em a call: 563-386-5777

Did you update the firmware? Someone else mentioned that with the included firmware the navigation seemed sluggish, but after he updated the firmware(to 1.07.02 the player seemed much more responsive.

Yea, first thing I did was plug it in and download the new updater (first time thru it showed the V1/V2 fuze on the left) then the firmware.  I want to say it had 1.25.something out of the box, so I updated it, then copied music I had backed up from my V1 (before it up and died). 

The side-to-side “swiping” was aggravating, but not near as bad as the up/down and “back arrow”.  I’d try as gently & slow as possible to scroll up one song or artist, and it would jump 2 or 3, so I had to go back and forth a lot.  With the V1/V2 wheel I feel I have a lot more precision and accuracy as to where I go and when I stop. 

I also like that the V1/V2 wheel menu “wraps around” instead of hitting the end and just bouncing back like a rubber wall.  Maybe there was a feature to do that, didn’t look - it was a challenge just finding the settings menu to adjust the clock and they even managed to screw up something as simple as that.  Swipe up (bounce!)…nope “down” to 7…swipe right to the minute column…no, the MINUTE column not the am/pm column…etc…and again, the whole unit felt like a cheap knock-offs from one of those “claw” redemption games…it weighed next to nothing and I knew it’s high-gloss shine would be scratched up in no time from normal handling…

Sorry for the excessive rant…I did a lot of comparison shopping a couple years ago and decided at the time to go with the Fuze, I just hoped the Fuze+ would have been “more”.  Bought myself a V1…and my wife one…and got a deal on a refurb V2 from WOOT.com for my 12 year old.  They figured out how to use it in no time.  The only headache was scaling cover art to 200x200 and using MP3TAG editor to update that…whether it was CDs I ripped, Amazon buys, or MP3s I had magically appear from places unknown…I was disappointed when my Fuze started randomly resetting or dieing even with a full charge…then the “refreshing” when nothing changed…and finally total death…

So…fast forward to last week…the MUZAK they pipe in at work (right above my head) drove me to the edge and I HAD to find something so thought I’d try the Fuze+ (mostly hoping gapless playback would be a feature…).

@coindoordave wrote:

 

 

The side-to-side “swiping” was aggravating, but not near as bad as the up/down and “back arrow”.  I’d try as gently & slow as possible to scroll up one song or artist, and it would jump 2 or 3, so I had to go back and forth a lot.  With the V1/V2 wheel I feel I have a lot more precision and accuracy as to where I go and when I stop. 

 

I think you’re not quite used to it yet or don’t fully understand how it works. You use the ‘swiping’ motion to quickly scroll through lists. To move just one at a time you ‘tap’ once at the far end of the swipe bar (whether it be side-to-side or up-and-down).

I love this player, I really do. It has a nice weight to it, I love the features and how it works. I have the clip+ which I gave to my son when I decided to get the fuze+. The unit appears to be faulty though, it plays one slotradio card and not another, they both work on the clip+.

It randomly won’t recognize some of the songs I put on it (not all), it says “unrecognized format” when I was listening to them an hour ago. These are songs I ripped off my own CD’s. When I format the player and put the songs back on it recognizes them again.

When I was listening to a slotradio card it suddenly started a loud buzzing noise that wouldn’t stop until I did a reset. It also won’t move forward one song when I tap the forward or backward tap areas, it usually goes 2, sometimes going forward when I tap back, or skipping 8 songs instead. 3, 5, 7, 1, 8… makes no sense.

I will have it replaced with another unit, in hopes that this is just a buggy one. Besides the problems that obviously aren’t intended it’s a wonderful and fun device. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced similar problems with it.

Before you ask, I installed the updater and updated it. I take very good care of my electronic equipment, I sewed a little pouch to protect it with a cord to hang around my neck, as I couldn’t seem to find any kind of holder for it online.

I was rather dissapointed at the lack of a real users manual, there’s a red dot on the top of the screen to the left of the shuffle icon. No idea what that is, an indicator of some sort. A user’s manual would be nice to find out what that is.

So, I have mixed feelings. Happy and Confused. :cry:

(unhappy that I’ll have to give it up and have to wait for a replacement!)