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Re: USB Flash Drive showing up as LOCAL DISK

Yes, years ago when flash drive technology was simpler they could be changed by flipping a bit.  Welcome to the 21st century, technology has changed, these drives were totally different than the run of the mill flash drives.  More than a bit was different.

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Ed_P wrote:

Yes, years ago when flash drive technology was simpler they could be changed by flipping a bit.  Welcome to the 21st century, technology has changed, these drives were totally different than the run of the mill flash drives.  More than a bit was different.


I am quite familiar with the state of the technology, thank you very much.

 

I also know that the removable media bit has nothing to do with it, other than identifying the drive to the Windows OS as either fixed or removable for the purposes of partitioning, autorun, etc.

 

If you have any information that supports your tirade above (idle speculation does not qualify) do post it here.

 

Best regards,

Alex.

 

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Re: USB Flash Drive showing up as LOCAL DISK

Good, then you also know that there are filters that can be used to make a drive appear as removable or fixed, so why don't you use one of them?  I'm referring to rdummy.sys and dummydisk.sys drivers.

 

Reviewing this thread may help you:

 

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/69211-a-multiple-partition-usb-stick-with-multi-boot-os/page-3

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Re: USB Flash Drive showing up as LOCAL DISK

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Is there any way to know with certainty that none of the 128 GB USB disks have this defect? If not, I've got to pull the trigger on some solution pretty much now. Thanks!

 

Ed: I went through your link, but it only indirectly states what has been confirmed here: That you can only flip the necessary bit if that has been made physically accessible, which has been shown to not be the case with these defective USB disks. Thanks anyway.

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Is there any way to know with certainty that none of the 128 GB USB disks have this defect?

 

 

Not that I am aware of, which doesn't mean there isn't. If you buy from a reputable source, one that supports the customer satisfaction concept, if you have a problem they will allow you to exchange the device(s).  If you buy randonly on the 'net you may not have that option.

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Well that's the thing isn't it? Even if it's a 'reputable source', how are they supposed to know which USB drive is which? They could just innocently *shrug* and trade what I sent back for just another one in their stock without any better clue than anybody else on whether it's defective or not. This clearly is time (and emotional investment) that I cannot waste. So I have had to go to one of SanDisk's competitors. Hope the thing lasts long enough for me to get some good use out of it (SanDisk is particularly noted for its longevity and reliability). And hopefully when the time comes for me to buy a 256GB, all of the defective SanDisk stock will have been plied out to owners who don't need the particular traits of a Removable USB disk. I'll be reading a lot of reviews to find out as much as I can beforehand. Sad that SanDisk won't simply come forward and straighten all of this out. I guess it would be just too embarrasing for them to acknowledge that they hedged their bets with yet another flopped Microsoft product, especially in light of the fact that no other manufacturer appears to have made the same goofball decision.

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I think you will find that; 1. "Removable" USB drives will fade away, like floppy disks.  And 2. Apps that want to continue being used with USB drives will be fixed to handle the new format.

 

Manufacturers supporting the Windows 8 to Go standard include Kingston, Imation, Western Digital and others.

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Re: USB Flash Drive showing up as LOCAL DISK


Ed_P wrote:

Manufacturers supporting the Windows 8 to Go standard include Kingston, Imation, Western Digital and others.


Yeah I thought something similar to this as well. Not wanting to be burned again, I started looking around to research all of the USB stick manufacturers who also got on board with this. Since the complaints for the Sandisk are right at the top of any internet search for this problem, I expected the same for any and all major competitors. I couldn't find even a single example of anybody else producing a USB stick that comes up as a Fixed Disk instead of the expected Removable Disk. Not one (thankfully). Not Kingston, not Toshiba (Imation and others...), not Corsair, or Adata. It was only when I probed much deeper that I finally found one other stick likewise produced with the defect; by someone called Centon, a company I've never heard of, I suspect for good reason.

 


Ed_P wrote:

I think you will find that; 1. "Removable" USB drives will fade away, like floppy disks.  And 2. Apps that want to continue being used with USB drives will be fixed to handle the new format.


An interesting remark to make considering that Sandisk has already abandoned the defect. Sorry Microsoft: But I will one day need something larger than a 40MB sized harddrive; I will want to actually play games on my PC; And no, 640k RAM is not "enough". I won't try to match that kind of arrogance about what people will want and/or need to use in the future with my own predictions. RIGHT NOW, a lot of people need and expect a USB memory stick to be a Removable Disk. That will not change because Microsoft dictates it based on God-only-knows what delusions are swirling around in their own heads. That will change because the market dictates it and only then.

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The market wants USB drives that are able to be partitioned.  A single partition is fine for 4 GB, 8 Gb even 16GB drives but 128 GB it too big and the number keeps getting larger.  If you want to be sure the USB drive you buy is removable, buy small size. 

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Re: USB Flash Drive showing up as LOCAL DISK

The market wants USB drives that support flipping the "removable" bit with a utility.